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There is lots of discussion about the proper amount of weight that a boy can carry safely.

It varies wildly, depending on the attitude and strength of the boy.

The conventional wisdom used to be that external frames are for trail hiking and internal frames are for off trail hiking.

Most of our hiking is on trails, but the majority of Scouts and adult leaders prefer the internal frame and these have become the most commonly available packs.

Down bags are not good because they are ineffective when wet.

Water Bottles: Two wide mouth plastic water bottles (32 ounce size) that fit inside the larger side pocket of most packs are great but their are lighter options.

) Items you wear are not included in the above totals, nor is food weight (estimated at 1.5 to 2.0 pounds per day, per hiker) or water (which adds 3-7 pounds per hiker).

the three heaviest things are your backpack, tent, and sleeping bag, so if you want to save a lot of weight invest in these items.

Personal Gear (should weigh less than 15 pounds) Backpack and rain cover (garbage bag OK) Sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack Sleeping pad (pillow optional) Personal first aid kit Two water bottles – minimum 2 liters total Two small flashlights Scoop and toilet paper Mess Kit (bowl, cup, utensils) Light towel and/or bandanna Sunglasses Carabiner Emergency Food Personal Items (Toothbrush, soap, glasses, contact solution, medicines) Emergency Kit in a bag: compass, pocket knife, sunscreen, chap stick, signaling devices (whistle and mirror), paper and pencil, map in a waterproof bag, matches in a waterproof bag, water purifier tablets, duct tape, insect repellent, two zip lock bags, two garbage bags Nice to Have: Walking Sticks, Stool or Chair, Waterproof Watch, Camera, Mosquito Hat, Wire Saw, Spices for food, Fishing Pole Clothing – including what you wear (Should weigh less than eight pounds): Sturdy hiking boots (broken in) Water shoes/camp shoes 2-3 pair non-cotton socks 2-3 pair sock liners (optional) 2 Hiking shorts or pants (one pair of long pants and something for swimming) 0-2 pair underwear 2 T-shirts and one long sleeve shirt Rain gear or poncho Hat or Cap (Wide Brim) Warm heavy shirt, sweater, sweatshirt or jacket (no cotton) Fleece pants or long underwear bottoms Gloves or glove liners and warm hat Many new backpackers bring too many clothes.

The basic rule is wear one set of clothes and pack one change of clothes unless weather is a major consideration.

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Waterproof Pack Cover needs to be large enough to protect items strapped to the exterior of the pack.